• HollowNaught@lemmy.world
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    Don’t hate new assassin creed games for being woke

    Hate them for being bad games, like the rest of us

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    You havent played the new AC because its woke.

    I havent played it because its 70± dollars.

    We are not the same.

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      I’ve played every one except for Mirage, paid like 10€ for every single one.

      patientgamers ftw

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      I haven’t played because I quit ALL video games 7 years ago. removedd up board games because instead of being “liked” playing with other people, it actually is.

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    There is an old man in my building, who got into video games about 10 years ago, when his wife died. When I first moved in I played games with him fairly often. After I knew him about a year, he exposed himself as racist. So I just faded away from interacting with him, too old to bother lecturing, so I just stopped socializing with him. I do see him around, and we make small talk, in the halls, elevator, etc.

    Anyway, now that you have context, I ran into him in the elevator when Shadows first came out. He said he had been playing it, and asked if I had. I said I didn’t then told him I was a little surprised he bothered with it. He said “Cause you play a colored samurai?” I said that I figured it wouldn’t be his thing, a lot of people didn’t like the idea. He replied “He was a real person, though” I told him a lot of people were mad about it, he said “it’s just a game”. So, if a racist, 83 year old, man didn’t see the issue here, these people have to be seeking things to be mad about. He doesn’t do much online though. Only social media he does is look at FB when his kids tell him they posted new pics of the grand kids, or whatever. This is purely a symptom of being terminally online.

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    It sucks that Yasuke is still experiencing racism 400 years after his death. I’m sure he wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest.

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        I can only imagine what it was like being a black man in 16th century Japan. I wish we knew more about him.

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    If the bigots are hating Assassin’s Creed and it makes news, then that means it’s officially good. If it was bad, thr bigots don’t make news since they get drowned out by everyone else saying it’s bad. It’s my new metric for whether or not something is worth watching/playing.

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      I, unironically, use this as a way of finding movies, TV shows and games that I might like.

      If you go on RottenTomatoes and look at the critic score vs. the user score, you can really tell a lot.

      For example, if a movie has a very low critic score, and a suspiciously high user score, it’s most certainly religious drivel created to push a narrative. If you click on the reviews, it will confirm it. Every time.

      Conversely, if a movie or show has a very high critic score, and a suspiciously low user score, it’s going to be because of conservative snowflakes getting triggered. Again, reading the user reviews confirms it every time.

      In the case of the latter, it almost always means I will enjoy the content. So I will seek out movies and shows that have that discrepancy.

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          Not the person you responded to, TLJ is easily my favorite of the three sequel movies. The Force Awakens and Rise of the Skywalker (I think?) both felt like focus group fanfiction slop; TLJ was the only one with anything meaningful to say at the end of the day.

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            thats pretty much what i think too but at least the force awakens is watchable. rise of skywalker is total junk with about 2 good scenes

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          Not the person you replied to, but…

          When the sequel trilogy first came out, I was upset because it could have been a lot better. Looking back on it, though, I think that was a combination of nostalgia and high expectations. That’s the problem all sequels struggle with, really, and the sequel trilogy didn’t hit the mark.

          Of the three, The Last Jedi was actually my favorite. I didn’t particularly like what Abrams had done with the first one, and while I didn’t think switching directors in the middle of a trilogy was a terribly good idea, I felt like I could kind of see where Johnson was going with it.

          With Abrams, I felt like he was trying to recreate the original trilogy. Use a tried and true formula that worked and not scare the audience too much. It was bland. Uninspired. Corporate. Johnson seemed like he actually had a story to tell. It might not have sit well with the fans - he might take a big swing and miss - but at least I felt like he was trying to create art instead of merely making money.

          Honestly I kind of would like to see Johnson’s take on a full sequel trilogy.

          Obviously if I could have removedd anyone to take on the chief creative direction on the sequel trilogy I’d pick Dave Filoni, but that’s neither here nor there.

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            It might not have sit well with the fans - he might take a big swing and miss - but at least I felt like he was trying to create art instead of merely making money.

            Same, I actually loved how his story had Rey as a “nobody” whose choices and actions were what made her important, SW has way too many special bloodlines, prophecies, and chosen ones.

            Then Abrams does a 180 in the sequel 😑

            I still hate that god damned dagger.

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            i also loved last jedi, and i was excited to see how rise of skywalker was going to continue last jedi, regardless if the fans hated it again or not. then rise of skywalker came out and just ruined everything

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            i see, i only ask as its a movie that famously had a high critic score and low audience score

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        Even taking hyperbole into account, this is not a great metric and has not been bourne out in my experience.

        What’s a suspiciously high and low score?

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          Maybe they’ve gotten better at filtering that shit out in the past couple of years, but can tell you with certainty that I’ve watched at least a half dozen shows and movies based entirely on this and have enjoyed them. My memory is shit so I can’t seem to think of any off the top of my head right now. If any come to me I will update this comment.

          It’s usually media that portray the black experience in America, or that shows US history (particularly slavery and/or Jim Crow) in a negative light. Sometimes it’s just because it’s about strong women. Or, in their minds, it makes men look bad (because portraying the objectively shitty things men do is apparently biased)

          For examples of the religious BS, look up anything Jim Caveizal has been in throughout the last decade or so.

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        Well, it depends on how recently the content has been released. If it’s recent, you can’t use user ratings because it could be review bombed. But if some time has already passed, user reviews with time even out and settle on their true score. For me, user scores are always the most accurate.

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        If there’s anything I’ve learned in social media over the past few years is that every wrongdoing can be blamed by the opposing political party. It’s just so simple.

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    It’s hard to overstate how true this statement is

    Like of course racism is a huge issue in America and other European countries (not letting them off the hook here a lot of the anti woke commentary resides there) and that is where this comes from, but the outrage this game and others receive isn’t organic.

    So much money, effort and planning goes into manufacturing outrage that I don’t believe you can feel strongly about these things and be “normal.” These people are consuming media from ecosystems that are made to keep them mad and to feed them propaganda. It is no different with maga and fake news or really any other ideology that requires people to fully buy in and accept a reality that doesn’t exist.

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    He’s fucking right. Normal people don’t get their blood pressure up about “black people and women?! IN MY GAMES??”

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    cant wait for elder scrolls 6 to come out and have people mad because its based in hammerfell 😂

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      Can you imagine the outrage if they simply remade Morrowind?

      “Bethesda has gone woke! Not only did they make the elves dark, but they made those same dark elves the slave owners! Literally unplayable!” Even Vivec having two different skin colors would melt their minds.

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    Never heard of FightinCowboy before, but this is a streamer worth following it seems. Hes gained at least one new fan and i dont even really need to see his content. Stick to righteous principles and good will come to you.

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    How many people raging about this probably played the shit outta San Andreas. Oohhhhhh but that’s okay cause it fits their stereotype?

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    Game is fine so far.

    People get all in their feelings over a game. A story. Would they get this worked up over a book? These people have to bitch about something to feel alive.

    I feel alive taking in a game how it was written and designed to be played. I don’t worry about cultural norms or other petty bullshit. Enjoy the gameplay, the world design and a new experience.

    Now, give me a Black Flag sequel with a female lead, a revamped ship combat and more pirate comedy. Top it off with some lesbien romance and outfits. Just to piss off the Republican snowflakes.

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      Also, the only thing that comes from including more people of color, LGBTQ+ people, etc., in media is more variety in characters and possible story lines. How is that ever a bad thing?

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        it’s bad if you’re a bigot and have been raised to hate and feel disgust when your beliefs are challenged

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          feel disgust when your beliefs are challenged

          I remember feeling this in church as a kid. Know what I did? I asked myself, “why would I react that way? If this is true, then it should be able to withstand challenges, and if it’s not then it is not worth believing.”

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        I did live that fantasy through Kassandra and Odyssey, but it wasn’t the Caribbean baby!

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            I still quite liked Black Flag and Unity (although far from perfect, especially at launch) and even Origins was pretty good. But Ubisoft Quebec just managed to poop on AC lore multiple times, most egregiously with odyssey.

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              AC was mechanically enjoyable, if overly long and repetitive. But the story was lacking to the point that I don’t even remember what the fuck the game was about in the first place. that’s what you get for making games bigger and longer. it just becomes a

              so much so that at first I thought “shame about the story because it had a really strong start with that twist” but I realized was misremembering AC3’s plot twist. so there’s literally nothing that I remember about AC4’s story except for the abysmal modern day parts which proved to me that they stopped giving a shit about the story and caused me to never check out an AC game again.

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      Ship Blackbeard and Captain Morgan. That would truly piss them off. A lesbian romance only brings performative anger because they’re hoping for porn.

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    I wish more streamers had the guts to do this. Too many ride the line and just ignore this stuff. It gives the idiots permission to keep yapping about it. God at least have your mods ban people in chat for it v

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    This is the only way to combat that sort of thing. To keep it from happening in your communities, to call out the people who do it and shame them, and to make it clear that this is stupid online bullshit that no one should care about. Good on him.

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    I’ve been watching him for a while now for his Souls-like playlists. He doesn’t really like playing Assassin’s Creed type games but he’ll do it out of popularity. Funny that this is the game he’s going viral for.

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        Cowboy is the GOAT. He is pretty much the only streamer I watch occasionally. He even had an overall positive opinion on Veilguard and it matches my experience fairly well.