Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it’s an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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    I literally just switched over from Google a few months ago and finally got all settled in. Just great. Does anyone know of any good alternative? I know Tuta exists, are there other options?

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        Well, switching from Proton was more painful for me, at least on a free account, as it won’t gel with a desktop client like Thunderbird or Outlook, and last I checked, didn’t allow email forwarding.

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        Imagine switching from based proton just cuz CEO agrees with Trump.

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          Imagine staying onboard with someone promoting nearly every horrible thing in our world just so you can have easier email access.

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            I mean, they showed agreement on one issue, which is obviously important for Proton and as a consequence beneficial for the general population (fairer competition with privacy respecting companies).

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              On the surface, yes. Look up Gail Slater and then decide if you really think she’s going to do anything about monopolies. Her career since leaving the FTC has been spent defending them.

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                The thing is, I don’t really care about her, I don’t know what she is going to do. My focus in this whole debacle has been mostly on making sure we are discussing about what was actually said. Anybody can have their own opinion on what she is going to do or not do, and it’s totally fine to have a conversation about that and dissent. They are speculation either way and fully opinable on both side, we can only wait and judge actions anyway. However, thinking that she is going to do well is not equivalent to be a Nazi by association, supporting Trump in general or anything like that.

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                  As a smart person said several years ago, “Context is everything and everything without context is a lie.”

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            Imagine making your entire existence a matter that eventually turns into politics. Give me a break. Who cares what he said?

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            If you think Trump covers “nearly every horrible thing in our world”, what do you say about the world from since you can remember until 2017 and again from 2021 till now?

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              After I eventually parsed that sentence: think hard about how logic and language work. A person promoting a lot of horrible things isn’t the same as that person inventing them.

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      I rate disroot as a good free alternative. Personally I use FastMail. It’s paid, but you know how the saying goes, “if the service is free the you’re the product”.

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      I know there’s Fastmail, but I don’t know if they have privacy on the level of Proton. I just know that one of the hosts on a tech podcast that I listen to moved there from Google and was impressed at how smooth the process was.