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  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    20 hours ago

    Use your critical thinking skills, imagine a bus in a city of 10 million people during rush hour at a busy stop – do you honestly think they’re checking everyone’s credit score before they get on? This shit is fake you have been duped

    And how exactly would an individual be subject to oversight in matters like “taxation, the environment, transportation, e-commerce, food safety, and foreign economic cooperation, as well as failing to carry out court judgments”? I know we have citizens united but corporations are not people lol

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      16 hours ago

      I know we have citizens united but corporations are not people lol

      Citizens United didn’t make corporations people. Corporate personhood had been a thing for a very long time, largely about whether or not forming a business means you lose legal rights operating under it (Does a business entity have freedom of speech? What does freedom of the press even mean in an 18th century context if it doesn’t apply to a business [aka a newspaper]?) and whether or not regular old laws prohibiting a person from doing a thing can be applied to businesses.

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      19 hours ago

      Why would such a feature need facial recognition? Just use the ID on the travel pass and done - cheaper, faster, and harder to fake if done properly.

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        17 hours ago

        The bus and metro passes are literally transferrable because they’re just a token not tied to any ID. Also they accept cash, and you can buy passes at a kiosk.

        I have personally even purchased a metro ticket for another person because we were going somewhere together and they left theirs at home. Within the last 2 weeks.

        You have been lied to. There are no WMDs in Iraq, MSG isn’t toxic, and Napoleon wasn’t short either, if you just blatantly swallow everything you see.

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      19 hours ago

      Use your critical thinking skills, imagine a bus in a city of 10 million people during rush hour at a busy stop – do you honestly think they’re checking everyone’s credit score before they get on? This shit is fake you have been duped

      Again, citation needed. “There’s literally no way an internet-connected society that already requires payment to board a bus, usually via something like tap-to-pay, could ever possibly check your ID against a list of IDs before you get on the bus” is not convincing. Evidence is convincing, and I’ve seen none so far. I’ve only seen an article reporting that it actually happens.

      The quote you’re saying is ridiculous is from the article provided describing how the social credit system actually works in real life. If you can give me a credible source that demonstrates this isn’t happening (instead of just your own lack of imagination to conceptualize tech that is already broadly implemented worldwide) then maybe that’d be more convincing than “I can’t personally imagine how that would work, so it’s impossible!”

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        16 hours ago

        I live in China. You put ¥2 into the slot and you get on. You can be wearing a fully balaclava, a face mask, or nothing. No-ones running ID on you to make sure your magical score is high enough before you are allowed to get on. You can get a transit token so you can tap on if you’re cashless. They’re sold without ID checks, foreigners can get them without speaking a word of Mandarin.

        You have been lied to and now you’re repeating those lies on the internet without even getting paid.

      • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        19 hours ago

        A still from some random persons shitty travel blog taken 6 months ago of her getting on the bus in China. What do you think that box is for, cookies for the driver?

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Ie9HYWejc

        Feel free to watch for yourself, this is around minute 23. It took me 30 seconds to find this

        By the way exchanges like this is why many people on left instances are outright hostile to liberals, making outlandish claims while being too fucking lazy to do even the bare minimum of independent research, racism to discount the voices of the people who are actually fucking from there saying ‘no this is bullshit’

        Like who are you going to believe a regurgitation of a state department talking point or a website full of normal ass Chinese people

        I know the answer bc like all liberals you are racist and intellectually lazy