I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Yep, when posting how to do something, between ‘select an example and paste to answer’ or ‘series of screenshots to illustrate a gui way’, the text copy/paste wins on laziness of answer.
Besides, there’s a decent chance that a person has to solve it for some arbitrarily large number of systems, and speaking in CLI is a vocabulary that can more trivially be made headless across a bunch of systems.
Which is honestly a good thing, it’s so much better than instructions that are like click here -> drag to the left -> open a three level deep menu -> check the box -> reopen that menu -> click go. Or even worse, instructions that are a video
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
I just checked and it doesn’t seem to pick up all the updates that pacman or yay does. Looks like, among other things it’s missing updates for samba, konsole, and plasma-addons
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
For arch at least there’s a widget you can add that does the same thing, it can show the number of available updates and works with pacman, yay, and a few other AUR package managers too.
KDE has a GUI app called Discover that will do Flatpaks as well as other package management systems. It shows me RPM packages that I normally update with zypper
That’s interesting, normally I’d use Pacman then update flatpacks, but I’ll have to check discover tomorrow before I run Pacman to see if it will do all my updates.
Well, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
I think the file managers do this for you nowadays, though I generally use ‘cloud’ style file syncing nowadays and so I’ll confess to not having done it lately.
I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
It’s not that you neeeed it for most basic stuff, but if you search how to do something the results are more commonly terminal commands.
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Yep, when posting how to do something, between ‘select an example and paste to answer’ or ‘series of screenshots to illustrate a gui way’, the text copy/paste wins on laziness of answer.
Besides, there’s a decent chance that a person has to solve it for some arbitrarily large number of systems, and speaking in CLI is a vocabulary that can more trivially be made headless across a bunch of systems.
Which is honestly a good thing, it’s so much better than instructions that are like click here -> drag to the left -> open a three level deep menu -> check the box -> reopen that menu -> click go. Or even worse, instructions that are a video
I just use it to get updates with apt-get or Pacman or yay. I haven’t seen any other way to update non flatpack programs on the distros I use
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
I just checked and it doesn’t seem to pick up all the updates that pacman or yay does. Looks like, among other things it’s missing updates for samba, konsole, and plasma-addons
I suppose that maybe not prioritizing Arch. Broadly speaking I feel like Arch isn’t the target for a GUI-exclusive usage scenario.
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1010/archlinux-updates-indicator/
I’m a recent convert, so I removedd KDE since it looked familiar. Might try gnome in the future tho, since I hear a lot of good things about it.
For arch at least there’s a widget you can add that does the same thing, it can show the number of available updates and works with pacman, yay, and a few other AUR package managers too.
What’s the name of the widget?
I think just Arch Update Checker iirc
KDE has a GUI app called Discover that will do Flatpaks as well as other package management systems. It shows me RPM packages that I normally update with
zypperThat’s interesting, normally I’d use Pacman then update flatpacks, but I’ll have to check discover tomorrow before I run Pacman to see if it will do all my updates.
Well, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
I think the file managers do this for you nowadays, though I generally use ‘cloud’ style file syncing nowadays and so I’ll confess to not having done it lately.