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    as someone with autism do NOT let us control everything. You’d get 27,000 cats and a ton of trains without any issues being solved.

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          My go to example for “we should have let them cook” is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGAS

          The US government in 1962 regarded the project as a major threat due to the “tremendous increments in economic productivity” which could disrupt the world market. Arthur Schlesinger Jr, historian and special assistant to President Kennedy, described “an all out Soviet commitment to cybernetics” as providing the Soviet Union a “tremendous advantage” in respect to production technology, complex of industries, feedback control and self-teaching computers.

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          Ironically may result in the resurgence of the bee population due to cats murdering the bird population

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        optimised solutions often create negative secondary effects in other systems - it’s not (always) that people are resistant to fixing things, it’s that when people get attached to an “optimised solution” and it comes into contact with the real world, it’s often difficult for them to take valid criticisms that aren’t about the system

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          It’s almost always for a selfish reason though. For instance, health insurance in the U.S. could easily go away if the government combined all of the funding for public healthcare systems. It won’t happen because of the for profit healthcare industry.

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    All the “high T alpha males” I’ve ever met are also the least critical thinkers I’ve ever met.

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        >be me >high T alpha male born to breed and lead >go to doc to confirm I am the most alpha of all >doc says your T levels are through the roof >fuck yeah it is I am a total chad >doc is like nah bruh you got the big C >mfw I only have 6 weeks to live

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        Yeah I tend to think that anyone who identifies as high t alpha male is actually just the opposite.

        They are usually the ones seeking admiration and approval. Meanwhile the free thinkers are just doing our days and caring for our tribes. No approval needed.

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    I guess they forgot that people like Martin Luther King Jr. got shot and killed for speaking out against these so called “high T, alpha males.”

    Being proud of using intimidation tactics is fucking weird and pathetic. Blaming it on garbage pseudo science lowers the bar into degeneracy. THEN turning it into victim blaming…“you’re too weak to have anything worthwhile to contribute” is just… wow.

    Evolutionary psychology was an interesting hypothesis, but it will never recover from these dipshits utilizing it as the loudest dog whistle in history…used to justify sexism and bigotry. I wish they’d all get in elons rocket and be the first people to land on the sun.

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      Powerful does not mean the same thing as “high T alpha male”.

      Studies show that higher testosterone is associated with increased desire for fair competition and fair outcomes.

      Anyone who puts a bullet into someone who challenges them is not a high status male. Power is not the same thing as status here.

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        What an interesting part of my comment to nitpick.

        Either you have an issue with the terminology…in which case take the terminology issues to Elon. I sure as fuck didn’t invent the terms.

        Or you buy into whatever garbage comes out his mouth. In which case don’t talk to me.

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    TLDR; “weak people have to conform to social consensus otherwise they get hurt I guess?”

    I, on the other hand, am a big, strong, high T alpha male, that isn’t worried about what anyone thinks! I am a free thinker, and I know my opinions are correct because I instantly based this entire opinion on a subjective, anecdotal view of the world that I then extrapolated meaning out of, the best evidence! /s

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    The post is starting out with the wrong assumptions so naturally it’s conclusions are wrong, top tier shitpost.

    In the old days we’d use this kind of pseudoscience for mischief (you know, trolling), now it’s disinformation spread by useful idiots to upend their democracies.

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      In the old old days, this was referred to as “religion” and was used to keep “those people” in their “place”…

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    dude we’ve seen you in swimwear. you look like a barrel on a stick. you can’t act like you’re prime specimen anymore. fucking troglodyte.

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        It largely depends on what lense you parse your logic through, if its the lense of accumulating wealth and power you will almost always reach the same conclusion, the same if you use dialectical Materialism you will almost always reach yhe same conclusion. In the first instance you wont be able to understand how others can’t see the truths that are burning into your retinas, while in the latter truth you will understand exactly why they avoid the rubric of logic which brings makes their lifestyle unable to accept they are everythig wrong with the world and dragging us int a greenhouse heat death in the pursuit of profit.

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          the same if you use dialectical Materialism you will almost always reach yhe same conclusion

          Material and historical conditions vary widely. Dialectical Materialism exists to synthesize solutions to a variety of contradictions. Stalin, Mao, and Tito reached some very different conclusions, despite growing up during the same international conflagration. Subsequent leftist revolutionaries - from Che to Chavez, had their own takes on the best path forward. A lot of leftist infighting can be attributed to these differences in baseline material condition.

          A relatively wealthy leftist living in the imperial core is going to have this sense of living in a post-scarcity world with a relatively liberal social order, while a Philippian labor organizer is going to be struggling just to survive while the state’s brutal police forces actively hunt them. Chinese communists and Vietnamese communists have a very acrimonious history together and are easily pitted against one another by European industrialists. And coalition building between northern Indian communist farmers and the Kashmiri neighbors who they are in economic competition with is extremely difficult.

          While you can always talk about the straight hyper-moral correct positions, they don’t always lend themselves to the physical labor involved in building local movements or the historical biases native to your region.

          One big take away of dialectical materialism is that outcomes aren’t clear and conclusions aren’t certain. You always need to try things, anticipate failure, and move forward from there. You can’t trap yourself in rigid ideology or you’ll find that ideology used against you as soon as capitalist leadership can adopt that rhetoric.

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      Or if they’re like a few people I know…whose critical thinking skills are “parrot opinions from someone who I think is almost as smart as me (according to me) because I exclusively listen to them”

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    I’m yet another Autistic person chiming in here to say that Elon is an ass clown

    I’ve met plenty of neurotypicals who defied group think, so this isn’t even close to right

    You folks know what’s up though, you don’t need me to tell you anything here. Love you guys, sorry we have a jackass amongst our population, you know how it is

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      I’ve met plenty of neurotypicals who defied group think, so this isn’t even close to right

      Well, maybe those neurotypicals had a lot of T cells.

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        Nah man they evolved into a new class of existence, they went from high T to super U cells

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    Ironic that only a source of “trust me bro, this is how the NPCs work” is all that’s needed for Musk to be like: “Derp my filter says it’s true! This must be true because it’s on 4chan, no sources or further thoughts needed…”

    “Well, back to my compound, security guards, and lobbyists that protect me from the majority!”

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    As an aneurotypical person, which, according to elon musk, makes me immune to propaganda and means that all my decisions are selfless, i can say that he is a liar who tries to make himself above other people and cares more about his public image than his kids

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      He doesn’t even know if he’s on the spectrum because, at least as far as we know, he hasn’t been evaluated. He just decided he has autism because he thinks it lets him get away with doing atrocious shit. As if autism made you an asshole.

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        Funny thing about that, I once did some investigation on the page he reposted it from, and they seem to be very against self-diagnosis, and put a great emphasis on the suffering of autistic people.