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        Because some people get food aggressive, and even a mention of a sustainable diet that doesn’t depend on cruel treatment of animals get them all riled up

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          I’ve yet to meet a vegan that just casually mentions they’re vegans. There’s always some form of annoying behavior attached.

          • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Maybe there are people you’ve met that you don’t know are vegan because they don’t bother mentioning it.

            Though if just announcing they’re vegan annoys you, you could be the problem.

            My wife is allergic to dairy, and the shorthand for dairy-free in many instances, is vegan. She’s definitely gotten the stink eye from some people when ordering that option, even though we’re both only part-time vegetarians and not preaching about it.

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              I know a handful of vegans who don’t make annoying people their one personality trait.

              Again, in a normal conversation, warning your host about your allergies or food preferences is fine. If vegans could keep it at that it’d be great

              Let me put it this way:

              Nobody ever went out of their way to annoy me for eating a salad.

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                Exactly. I didn’t realize a large chunk of my coworkers were vegan until we were about to order a company lunch. I did realize one of my remote coworkers was vegan because she mentioned it all the time.

                There’s a lot of truth to the jokes about vegans self-announcing when food isn’t being discussed at all. The same goes for Arch users, atheists, and other passionate groups.

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      I worked with a lot of non-native English speakers and they love this stuff.

      I don’t understand why. I mean, I can assume.

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        Eh, as a native English speaker, I thought it was good. I have pretty low standards though, and I like other corny jokes like saying you’re vegetarian because you only eat other vegetarians (e.g. cows).

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        The difference between veganism and religion is that one is based on facts, the other is not.

        • It’s true that other species of animals are sentient, they have nervous systems similar enough to ours that we know they can feel pleasure and pain.
        • It’s true that we kill billions of them per year.
        • It’s true that the vast majority of them are factory farmed (74% worldwide, 99% in the US).
        • It’s true that humans at all stages of life can thrive on a properly planned vegan diet, according to most major health organizations.
        • It’s true that animal agriculture is extremely inefficient and loses a lot of calories from crops being put towards feeding animals (see: trophic levels)
        • It’s true that animal agriculture has a huge impact on the environment compared to feeding crops directly to humans.

        so get out of here with that nonsense that veganism is religious zealotry. I don’t have time to cite a source for each point, but they’re all super easily verified. Veganism is looking at the impact of your choices with clear eyes and choosing compassion over personal pleasure. It’s choosing to live and let live, rather than forcing death and misery on other species because you like the taste of their flesh and secretions.

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          It’s true that humans at all stages of life can thrive on a properly planned vegan diet, according to most major health organizations.

          Wait, including newborns? I mean, I doubt there’s a vegan alive who’s against breastfeeding, but for people who can’t breastfeed, baby formula isn’t vegan, is it?

          Not trying to rag on the point you’re making btw

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            I think there is vegan formula, and using breastmilk is vegan since it’s consensually given, including breastmilk shared by other mothers

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              using breastmilk is vegan since it’s consensually given

              the definition of veganism says nothing about consent, only exploitation. breastmilk is as vegan an cows milk.

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                Maybe your point would stand if humans had been bred to massively over-produce milk and had their babies taken from them so even more milk could be taken from them for profit and they had no agency in how their life went, from being bred in captivity and then impregnated in order to cause them to produce more milk to being killed when they stop producing milk.

                This is a stupid take, even for you

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                  1. humans are animals
                  2. veganism eschews exploiting animals
                  3. drinking a product from a human is exploitation

                  therefore

                  1. breast milk is not vegan