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  • even the things that replaced it at this point are getting run into the ground and require replacing.

    How so and what ‘mass market’ messengers are there that could replace them?

    I have scoured and tried many messengers and most of them are just plain either not there yet or never will be.

    The only one that is actually private and good I have come across is Signal and it doesn’t seem like it is either “run into the ground” nor does it “need replacing”.

    I just don’t see anything else becoming ‘mass market’ as most of them are too niche or are developed only for tech obsessives and paranoid folks, with either not always on e2ee or suspect business practices or just not on all platforms or never will be.




  • Eh, I don’t know if it was illegitimate or not considering he allowed abuse to carry on on the platform for years and due to no encryption it was well known about.

    I hope either people using the platform or telegram itself learn their lesson and the people using it leave for better platforms or telegram finally add meaningful encryption and stop pretending that they can sit back and do nothing.

    No, I’m not suggesting abuse should be allowed to carry on just because it moved to encrypted messengers, nor that all the ‘illegal’ things that happened on it are bad (something being illegal doesn’t mean it is unethical inherently), just that those doing nothing unethical deserve protection and telegram doesn’t provide it.

    As for the rest well, they deserve to be taken down and kept well away from anything that would enable them to abuse.