Doesnt work anymore. Maybe if this is about the Starbucks CEO. Swift at least responded to criticism and swore to use less flights. I’m not sure the CEO cares at all.
It’s almost like these are bullshit posts with an agenda.
Only know of one group that has an active interest in being anti-swift
Buncha haters! If I were as rich as her I’d take a private flight to 7-11 down the street if I could. I would take a flight to another country just to eat dinner and come back.
Private jets used by the ultra-rich and boiling us alive. We are the frog in the pan and climate change deniers can’t tell that the temperatures are rising, even though scientists are screaming at them.
Yeah that .9% of all CO2 emissions is really the reason. You should probably also stop using phones and computers and electricity. Did you know factories that produce most of the things you use on a daily basis create more pollution than private jets. Boiling us alive lol.
It’s low-hanging fruit.
We can cut nearly a percent from asking 1:1,000 people not to use their private jets.
In 4 hours a private jet introduces as much CO2 as the average person does from all sources in a year.
By banning private air travel we can reduce carbon emissions dramatically with virtually no social cost.
I don’t disagree with you at all. It’s just not realistic. Private jets will never be outlawed. The people who vote on that are donated by rich people who fly private jets exclusively. Will never happen. I think the only thing that COULD happen is a maximum amount private jets can fly a year. A few different ways that can be accomplished but we don’t need to go into that here.
I think this is more appropriate for the new Starbucks CEO.
Billionaires gonna billion.
Starbucks ceo is richer, and a
menman, we should make more memes about him.My idea is that: 100 billionaires make bullshit with their private jets: I sleep. Taylor swift make buillshit with her jet: Real shit?
We are only clowning on the women billionaire and ignoring all others who do similar shit.
(and about the men vs man thing, english is my second language, I meant man)
The glaring difference to me is that Taylor tries to project an image of being a better billionaire. And, in a lot of ways, she IS, so it’s more glaring when she shits the bed with something as dumb as a private jet. She does philanthropy, she fights back against the music industry’s bullshit, she’s even pretty outspoken about the climate, but she can’t ground her jet unless absolutely necessary?
She’s still a billionaire. She still sucks. But she does marginally better than the rest. Now step up the rest of the way. Until then, criticisms are valid.
Regarding man vs men, the singular vs plural doesn’t matter. It’s that none of this is gendered. Starbucks CEO (I think it’s telling that I don’t respect him enough to know his name) sucks. Gates sucks. Buffet sucks. Swift sucks.
it’s the gender bias in attention paid.
when was the last time you thought about the ceos of GE, boeing, Home Depot etc., who have been doing the same shit for decades.
She treats her people decently, something I really can’t say for a lot of other billionaires.
https://abc7chicago.com/taylor-swift-gives-bonuses-eras-tour-bonus-truck-drivers-net-worth/13588228/
Every difference in treatment between two people based on gender is sexism
And exclusively focusing on Taylor when there is recent examples of others doing much worse is a great example of this. Such as Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Leonardo DiCaprio who all use their private jets in just as wasteful horrendous ways. Much like how all the star wars fans decided Kathleen Kennedy or “Darth Kennedy” was the main reason the new movies were bad, ignoring the directors and writers with more control.
I’m not here to defend Taylor, couldn’t care less about her, not at all a fan and fuck all billionaires. But you have to ignore centuries of history, gender discrimination and patriarchal control to cite sexism like this. There is a rich history of double standards and women being criticized for the exact same thing men do. The overwhelming majority of private jets are used by men in their 50’s, but somehow Taylor Swift is the eternal meme fodder for it?
Yup. So many shitty billionaires out there, but they focus on one of the decent ones.
https://abc7chicago.com/taylor-swift-gives-bonuses-eras-tour-bonus-truck-drivers-net-worth/13588228/
I think I’m out of the loop here… What does Taylor swift have to do with an airplane?
She’s notorious for using private jets going anywhere, even for short trips that’s perfectly doable by other modes of transportation. There’s even a subreddit dedicated for tracking her jet.
And she is one of how many ultra rich people out there who have private jets and they use them to go every damn place?
This shit is so damn silly it’s not even funny.
Nice whataboutism. Just because others do it too doesn’t mean it’s suddenly not bad when Taylor does it. They should all stop, and if she wants to keep being a voice for positive change, she needs to be leading the way.
Here’s the problem with your argument. Taylor Swift actually has a reason to use a private jet on a regular basis. She’s actively moving around the world doing tours and needs the ability to travel great distances at a moment’s notice. However rich douchebags with too much time on their hands like Elon Musk don’t have this need. Neither do many of the other ultra rich people out there who own private jets and fly them all over the place.
And to clarify, I’m not a Swifty. I don’t really care for her music at all. I just think it’s goddamn stupid to criticize someone who actually has a purpose for using such a conveyance while there are others who have absolutely no reason to need such things who are getting a free pass just because they aren’t targets of a political campaign that is desperate to neutralize her influence.
At a moment’s notice? Are you referring to the well planned tours?
I’d posit that every person who owns a private jet uses it to move around the world at a moments notice. That is, after all, the thing jets excel at. So now we’re getting into what we consider valid reasons to move around the world.
I’d argue that a world tour, sure. You can use a jet for that. I don’t think any reasonable person would counter that. How about just a US tour? A city a day? That’s pretty doable without a jet. And yet, she uses it for similar occasions.
I don’t disagree that Elon and Mr Starbucks and Gates and all the rest should stop using theirs all the time. That’s not, and had never been the argument that I’ve made, or any other person in this thread. They should stop, and so should Swift, where it’s possible.
Do you run company that specializes in musical tours? Do you know what it takes to successfully manage one?
I’m not saying that private jets aren’t incredibly wasteful in terms of their CO2 production and fossil fuel usage. I’m just saying that the motivation for criticizing Taylor Swift is less about how much she uses her private jet and more about how much political influence she might wield in the coming months. I think the arguments against her are bad faith arguments made either by people who simply don’t like her for the sake of not liking her or are trying to disarm her influence in whatever way they can. And I find that completely silly. And every “yeah but” argument you make and every person who downvotes me just proves me more and more right.
She’s been credited with getting a lot of young Americans to vote. She’s a pop star. How many things does she need to lead the way on? Why can’t that Chipotle CEO who was posted about here last week be the face of this problem? Supposedly he flies his jet every day.
She’s been credited with getting a lot of young Americans to vote. She’s a pop star. How many things does she need to lead the way on?
Good for her! To be clear, I think she’s doing absolutely wonderful things in these regards. You can look elsewhere on this thread for my own unprompted praise of the good things she’s done. She doesn’t need to lead the way on any of them, she’s doing pretty alright.
Why can’t that Chipotle CEO who was posted about here last week be the face of this problem? Supposedly he flies his jet every day.
The fact that you can’t name him. It doesn’t have the same impact. Swift leads a public life, she’s one of the most recognizable names in America. And, she’s doing absolutely shit in this regard. It’s perfectly fair to call her out on that, especially if she wants to be an outspoken climate conservationist.
Do you think doing some good things makes it okay for you to do bad things? That it somehow tips the scales? Like, lets say I put a fire out in an orphanage. Do I then get to kick some puppies to balance the scales? I don’t think so, that sounds silly. So why does it balance out for Swift? Because she gets people to vote and because she’s a pop star (that one’s kinda weird but okay) we can just accept the bad things without criticism?
She’s starting to gain a lot of political influence with young liberal voters, so conservatives are latching on to anything they can find to try to discredit her with them. The fact that she used a private jet to travel seems to be the only dirt they can find on her.
For what it’s worth it’s definitely not just conservatives. While I think she’s doing a lot of good compared to others in her wealth bracket, that wealth bracket still should not exist, and anyone in it is a problem.
I can acknowledge that she pays better than most other entertainers. I can acknowledge that she’s pushing back against a lot of the BS that the music industry is pedaling lately. I can acknowledge that she does a lot of philanthropy.
I can also acknowledge that she’s acquired an inhuman amount of money, which necessarily requires perpetuating suffering. I can acknowledge that she’s absolutely a part of the environment problem. All of these things can be true at the same time.
I vote left (Canadian), and I think she’s a menace to the environment. There’s this weird logical fallacy going around that if you dislike her, you must be a conservative. SloppyEngineer’s article says she shat out 2.8 tonnes of c02 emissions on this 28 mile trip-- it’s okay to call out hypocrisy, she doesn’t get a pass.
It’s nice that she got the GoP finally care about climate change though, haha.
Edit: numbers
