• Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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    2 months ago

    No. When you purchase the dvd you become the owner of that specific disc… you never gained ownership of my website just because you visited and copied my content.

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        2 months ago

        No, I never granted you any ownership of my content. Period. You didn’t pay me, you didn’t engage in any contract with me.

        Simply archiving my stuff and running away then publishing it as your own is theft.

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          You’ve put it out there for free, though, and the data literally ends up on my machine because you made it do that, so what’s the problem with me saving the data on my machine for later, and potentially sharing it elsewhere for free again?

          then publishing it as your own is theft

          1. This scenario (misattribution of content) has nothing to do with the previous discussion. The other commenter is making an analogy to CDs, owning a CD and lending it to others doesn’t mean you’re claiming its content is your own creation.

          2. Theft implies deprivation of ownership. Calling this theft is like calling piracy theft. It may be illegal by this or that metric, but it’s not normal theft.

          • Well the whole premise of their argument is flawed because they’re basing it on the fact of redistribution. If I’m not redistributing it, then the whole argument of that falls away entirely. Under fair use, I believe you’re also allowed to make copies of things for research purposes, so I’d argue that’s what an archive is.

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            2 months ago

            I can keep it until the copyright expires and then I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.

            general copyright is 70 years. So no. You couldn’t do whatever you wanted with it as the computer you’re using would be long dead… and possibly you’d even be long dead. Replicating the content to another device without owners consent could and likely would be a violation of that same copyright.

            • Replicating a personal backup to another device is covered by free use. Only distribution and derivative works are covered by copyright.

              And yes, the length of copyright is way too long. It recon it should be the same as patents, 20 years. Or let it be as long as the warranty and let the big companies duke it out with each other.