• Sibshops@lemm.ee
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      I think you may have misread. The PHD isn’t saying that XY becomes XX, they are saying, genetically, a person carrying XY can be a cis woman. Biologically, XY doesn’t determine the sex.

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        I honestly don’t understand. What does define the sex biologically? The genitalia, then? I always understood positions like William’s like “XY is the biologically male sex by definition, if the human develops female genitalia and feels like a woman they were biologically speaking still intended to be a man.” I don’t understand what else there could be on an elemental level to biologically determine the sex.

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          There’s no one thing that defines sex, that’s what makes it so complicated. What is often thought of as “biological sex” are two clustered sets of checkboxes (e.g chromosomes, genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, primary sex hormone), but people often have a mixture from both lists. Here’s an interesting nature article on it https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

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          To preface: this is from a previous bout of hyper focus curiosity (i.e. I am not an expert). But the human genome is significantly more complex than “XX chromosome means biological female”. Other genomic markers can trigger that don’t align with the typical, which can result in male reproductive organs on a person with XX chromosome and vice versa. XX and XY are also not the only options. There are three, four, and even five somal groupings (e.g. XXY, XYY, XXX - note that to my understanding, you can’t have all Y chromosomes even in these outliers). If anyone has further information or any corrections for me, I’d welcome them - I’m going off of memory from a couple of years ago and it’s not directly relevant to me (i.e. I am cis-male with no known chromosomal abnormalities)

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      It’s weird how your first thought is “the PhD is wrong” and not “I must have misunderstood something” .

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        “I must have misunderstood something” .

        There was a reason I made that comment

        Though I disagree with the conservative genitalia = gender ideology

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            Or the thought the phd must have meant something else

            But sure the phd is wrong if he meant that; just like those anti-vax doctors and anti-abortion doctors

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              It’s crazy how you’re still insisting that “the PhD is wrong if he meant that”’ rather than figure out that no, what you think they meant is not what they meant, it is not what they said, you are the one misunderstanding what they said. It has to be the PhD’s fault, certainly not yours.

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                It’s crazy that you think me saying “if they meant that they are wrong” means I am not open for further clarification

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                  And yet, when someone explained to you what the PhD said and meant, your response was:

                  So not what the phd claims

                  And just now you were still comparing them to anti-vaxx doctors “if they meant that”, when they clearly didn’t mean that, and you were already told what they meant. You’re still pretending that maybe they said something wrong. They didn’t.

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                    they clearly didn’t mean that, and you were already told what they meant.

                    Which one is it? Is it they clearly didn’t mean what that person said or is it they meant what that person said