• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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    i wouldn’t have guessed that reading the comments of this would lead to blocking another lemmyworld user. it’s amazing how much better a conversation can be when you get rid of the actual shit

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    Shitposting is just pretending to be stupid/racist/shitty for laughs/attention, right? Pretty low form of humor, if you ask me (no one did), but I’m also guessing a lot of shitposters aren’t just pretending.

    I like a laugh as much as the next person, but we can’t sit around going “Why are people in this country so fucking stupid/racist/shitty?” while simultaneously elevating “acting” stupid to some high form of humor. You see how that’s counterproductive, right?

    “Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.” - Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason


    “Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company.” - Jason Garrett-Glaser

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      Isn’t this a group chat between friends though, so its not an open community where actual idiots are free to just join it.

      I play a lot of games that include genocide, like Rimworld, Stellaris, Drox Operative 2, Factorio. That doesn’t mean I am actually going to go out and commit one.

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        Great failure of Pauline (🤡🤡🤡🤡) discourse: actions don’t matter, only faith. Bitch nothing in your head matters, only what you do is consequential. Motherfucker destroyed Christianity before it even had a chance get started

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      I don’t think it is that people are saying shitposting is a higher form of humor, but that it requires a level of trust that you know the people you’re shitposting with know you and know you’re joking. Lack of that leads to your second quote.

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        That’s totally fair, and I agree with you. I probably shouldn’t have used the phrase “high form of humor”. I more meant “worthwhile form of humor”. Even that doesn’t really encapsulate what I mean.

        I don’t know. It can be hard to separate brainrot from intelligent comedy, and I laugh at both, myself. I’m not the comedy police or anything, I just don’t want to end up here:

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    Ah yes, “cocksucker” as the first insult to come to mind, the sign of a good person

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        It implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.

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          imo the pejorative connotation of that word, and homophobia generally, is ultimately rooted in misogyny

          "always has been" meme with "wait, it's all about maintaining the patriarchy?"

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          It implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.

          I swear, if folks like you had your way the future would be a world like Demolition Man where there’s microphones listening to everyone’s conversations and people get fined every time they say something someone finds offensive, which is a retarded future I don’t want to live in.

          BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

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            I think you’re getting caught up in the state being abusive and controlling to it’s citizens (as Dump is doing now) and society self-regulating itself for it’s own benefit (something that happens in all social groups) as being one and the same. Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.

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              Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.

              Hard disagree. Far-left-wingers would absolutely start jacking themselves off at the idea of someone being fined by a bot the moment they used a word like “retard” or “cocksucker” in conversation, and there’s no way you can convince me differently at this point.

              The dystopian Demolition Man future that left-wingers want might not be as awful as the Cyberpunk 2077 future that right-wingers want, but it’s still not a future I want to live in.

              The funny thing is, the majority of you folks on the left are utterly convinced you are the “good guys”. You aren’t. You’re just the lesser of two evils, which is the only reason I vote Democrat at all.

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                I think you need to work on expanding your political theory into more dimensions

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                Lmao my man here thinks that the American democratic party is leftist, that’s hilarious.

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                  Lmao my man here thinks that the American democratic party is leftist, that’s hilarious.

                  ^ Translation from Schmuck to English: “I am too clueless to figure out that LudwigVonPseudonym is referring specifically to US politics and not global politics”.

                  Yes, yes, we all know American Democrats are fucking center-right to the rest of the world, and you aren’t as smart as you think you are for pointing that out. Now sit down.

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              “Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future

              Sound logic

              LMAO you know what’s funny? That fucking high horse you rode in on.

              For over a decade now, you far-left liberal Democrats have always thought yourselves the “good guys”.

              You aren’t.

              You’re just the lesser of two evils, which is the only fucking reason I vote Democrat at all.

              Princess, I’m sorry the word “cocksucker” gets your panties in a bunch, but this is not the time for you to be blindly accusing people of being “bigots” just because they hurt your feelings.

              No, this is the time for YOU to reflect on how bad of a fucking loser you and your party is at the moment, and how you’re going to do better in the future.

              Want to see the problem with the Democratic Party? Look in the damn mirror.

              You lost an election to a con man, a fraud, and a felon. Instead of wagging that fucking finger at me, how about YOU “do better” and take some time to reflect on exactly why that happened.

              Either that, or continue being a fucking loser. Your choice.

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                Mate whenever you need to copy and paste fragments of your comments into other comments you look like a proper tool

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                “Far-left” and “Democrat” do not belong in the same sentence, ignoramus. Get educated. You can actually read, presumably. Deprogram yourself. You can actually do it. If I could do it at 12, you can do it today

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            Where do they say that they want microphones listening to people? Just because someone doesn’t like some ways of talking, doesn’t mean that they want 1984-style surveillance of everyone.

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              You fucking left-wingers would absolutely start jacking yourselves off at the idea of someone being fined by a bot the moment they used a word like “retard” or “cocksucker” in conversation, and there’s no way you can convince me differently at this point.

              BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined two credits for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

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                Are u OK dude? Take a ride, go to a park or something, breath air. Your mental health is more important than whatever your podcaster tells you.

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                  Are u OK dude?

                  Myself and the rest of the country will be “okay” when Democrats finally pull their heads out of their asses long enough to actually win a damn election instead of spending all their time wagging fingers at people over stupid shit like using the word “cocksucker”. In case you all haven’t noticed? There’s bigger shit to worry about right now.

                  BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined five credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute.

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            That’s still degrading to fellators.

            And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.

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              That’s still degrading to fellators.

              I swear, if folks like you had your way the future would be a world like Demolition Man where there’s microphones listening to everyone’s conversations and people get fined every time they say something someone finds offensive, which is a retarded future I don’t want to live in.

              BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

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                Too lazy to write two separate responses? I’ll try!

                “Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future

                Sound logic.

                Oh shit, that’s the same message, guess you will have to read it twice, maybe that way it will get through to you.

                Tap for spoiler

                You can be better, reflect on your bigotry and grow as a person.

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                  No, pumpkin.

                  Using the term “cocksucker” doesn’t make anyone a bigot.

                  In fact? Shit like this is precisely why you limp-wristed pansy Democrats lost the election - You spent all your time and political power trying to police everyone over petty “microaggressions” when you certainly had much bigger problems to deal with.

                  How about YOU “do better”? How about YOU “reflect on your mistakes”? How about YOU “grow as a person”? Because it’s damn time you self-righteous fucking liberals did so before you have another massive loss in the 2026 midterms.

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              its still at the end of the day giving pleasure to another. giving the key word: power thing. its the same atmosphere as bootlicker

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                So, if you were to replace ‘cocksucker’ with ‘towelhead’, slut, Yid, or Nig*** would that still just be a power thing?

                Not that it actually makes a difference. This ‘power thing’ you refer to is controlling abuse for self interest. Introducing a predudice is just a way of trying to justify and/or hide the abuse.

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                If you think going down on someone is only a submissive act you haven’t gone down on someone long enough, or teased them enough.

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                Being submissive in sex can be expressed in a blowjob, but so can being dominant. Most sexual acts can be either dominant or submissive under the right context. For example a person can forcibly (consensually) throw the other person down, pin them to the floor and start going down on them while not letting them orgasm. Is the person being overpowered and forced to be frustrate by not orgasming the one in power?

                Your understanding of mutual respect and love is unhealthy if you compare going down on someone to bootlicking.

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            He could have also said “vaginalicker” but he didn’t, he used a well known homophobic slur. Also, if he wanted to say submissive he could have used well known submissive insults.

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      Shitposting is one thing. Without knowing what the war memes were, I can’t say one way or another.

      Sharing private chats from your girlfriend? Yeah, that’s too far.

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        Sharing private chats from your girlfriend? Yeah, that’s too far.

        Whoa whoa whoa, but they said they didn’t commit crimes by sharing nudes without consent! They’re not that disrespectful!

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    My groups collective chats are more of a microcosm of meme culture at the given time, sort of a petri dish of various meme strains fighting for (limited) mental resources.

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    There’s always two group chats, one for everyone and one for the people you want to talk to. And if you think that doesn’t happen I have some bad news for you.

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    I would love for my 40k groups five year group chat to be leaked. My theories about Alpharius is valid I tell you.

    Nononono, do it go! We haven’t even gotten to the part with Valdor, and the Emperor yet.

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    I really thought this was going to be a satire post about the Yemen bombing Signal chat group leak based off the reddit title.

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    If the contents of my friends’ group chat got leaked… people would just think we’re fucking idiots, not terrible people.

    Good work, Derek. Be better, losers in that chat.

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      I think that’s obtuse, comedy has no limits: As long as you don’t act upon uncomfortable / morally reprehensible ideas you joke about, you aren’t any worse or better than if you had never joked about it. I would argue that exposing a bunch of people for what they joke about with no evidence that they’ve actually done something wrong is far worse than joking about offensive subjects. (one has zero negative affects, the other has many)

      (I must say I disagree completely with that guy sharing messages from his girlfriend- that piece is very weird and a total breach of trust)

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        (I must say I disagree completely with that guy sharing messages from his girlfriend- that piece is very weird and a total breach of trust)

        My impression from the original post was that kind of stuff was what drove most of the fallout. Leaked off color memes aren’t going to ruin people’s relationships, but leaked shit talk or breaches of someone else’s privacy will.

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          but leaked shit talk or breaches of someone else’s privacy will.

          shit talk and leaking messages is pretty bad, but that’s really common these days unfortunately. I wonder how frequently texts like that are shared between female group chats. Depends on the person, and the group, but they are just more connected.

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        Keep in mind the source of this story. The author has every reason to describe the stuff on their group chat sound tame, so if it sounds bad, it’s probably 3 times worse than that.

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      derek is still a cunt though. If you join and find shit you don’t like the first thing you should do is confront people. Either derek just likes causing people problems (and is a problematic individual) or he is not very bright and thinks that everything people say must be 100% true and serious.

      I would not ever want to be friends with derek, that’s for sure.

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    If I had to explain some of my in-group chats, it would be complicated and awkward, but not life-destroying.